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Day 396 – AS#226 + Post Google Change

Put up another adsense sniper today..I also spent some time looking through my top sites and seeing which of them could benefit from another round of backlinking…I came up with around 26 sites that I can backlink.

I’m thinking of just sending the backlinks to the main domain and see if that will help them out..

Regarding the drop in traffic to the sites, it seems to have really dropped since Friday….My impressions dropped quite a bit and my income was not going up at the same rate it usually does throughout the day.

Normally at 3pm I’m at around $30-40, 4pm $40-50, 5pm $50-60… however I was finding myself substantially lower throughout the day, like at the time I’m doing this update(Sat 5pm), I’m sitting at $30 rather than at least $50…it may be too early to say, but based on yesterday and part of today, I’m at around 60% of where I normally was.

This is just an initial impression, I’ll have a lot more certainty as the days go by.Β  More importantly, I’m going to see what I can do to raise the income back up…be it through backlinking the main domains or inner pages.

Earnings For Today:

  • CB = $35.11
  • Adsense = $78.14
  • Total = $113.25


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  1. Dan
    June 5th, 2010 at 16:46 | #1

    Mike – have you been able to figure out which type of sites have moved up in the rankings? A lot of people are talking about losing traffic, but haven’t heard much from anyone who has gained. Would be good to get an idea of what types of sites have risen – i.e authority/micro niche etc.. as at the moment it seems like people with micro niche sites AND authority sites are both complaining about lost traffic. Who has benefited from the recent change?

  2. June 5th, 2010 at 16:53 | #2

    I’m seeing a traffic reduction in both older and newer sites, large and small. I’m doing what Mike is, doing more backlinking. Grrr. I hate it when Google does this. This time seems to be more of a significant change then normal.

  3. steven
    June 5th, 2010 at 16:53 | #3

    hi Mike Steven again
    how many days after doing articles marketing, does it take the website to occupy any of the first three places in google?

  4. Joe
    June 5th, 2010 at 18:36 | #4

    Mike – Yup, my sites have also been hit hard. Income has drop to 1/5 of my usual income. Same as traffic. It seems that Google has really focused on cracking down on the mini-site model. Hopefully some of the rankings will get back to normal. Funny how some sites got jerked around while others didn’t. Fingers crossed everything will get back to normal but it seems this is a permanent change……….At least your still getting 60% of your income, count yourself lucky.

  5. Steph
    June 5th, 2010 at 18:53 | #5

    Hi Mike!

    I’m working through reading the old posts – up to day 213 now πŸ™‚ Reading your posts always gets me inspired to start working on our sites!

    Sorry to see that your income dropped so much! We were hit too – page impressions were cut in half. I’m seeing that most of my product oriented snipers dropped significantly. The only one that didn’t had a lot of posts on it. My clickbank and info related sites stayed in a similar position.

    We’re thinking we’ll just add some more posts to the ones that disappeared and build a few more backlinks…hopefully things will come back…

  6. June 5th, 2010 at 19:10 | #6

    This doesn’t confirm or deny the latest G thing… just kind of interesting to note.
    I had two similar sites (almost identical) on pg 1 for the same KW and the lower one flopped back and forth from page 1 to page 2. After the G purge, the lower one became #2 and the other which was always in second position disappeared.

    So, how does that figure in the great scheme of things?


  7. June 5th, 2010 at 19:24 | #7

    I’m also running SEOlinkvine to my pages along with UAW, in a month or so we’ll see how all 40 of them do.

  8. June 5th, 2010 at 21:39 | #8

    Would like to know how that goes – I was on a WSO special for $39.95/mo with them, wanted to add them to UAW, but kept reading how their submission was slow and decided to cancel (every time I opened them up it froze…grew impatient).

    I’m going to be adding ArticleRanks and quite possibly MAN, but keeping UAW, they just work too well.


    I had a similar experience, site at #3 or so dropped in all KW’s for G, but still #2 in Y and I forget where in B…doesn’t quite make sense, but honestly: it’s a new computer program! It’s not a massive manual review, so go figure: thing’s a bit stupid.

    Luckily, though, only 1 of my sites seems to be hit (all my sites are 5-10 pages).

  9. Bryan
    June 5th, 2010 at 22:11 | #9

    For all of those who are seeing reduction in rank after this google update, exactly how long are your long tail domains that are affected? Are these domains greater than three keywords (ie supercoolpooltoys.com)?

    Just curious as I have seen no drop in traffic OR rank for any of my sites (including one pagers, adsense snipers, and product/niche sites). That being said, I stick to two keyword domains, three keywords max domestically (com/net/org). Might be a strategy worth adopting..


  10. Mikeman
    June 5th, 2010 at 23:47 | #10


    If sites moved up in ranking, I’d be making more money, instead my traffic has been pretty much cut in half..

    I’ll need to wait and see what happens regarding my CB sites, hops seem to be declining a bit though…


    That’s hard to say, depends on the keyword..some keywords don’t need any promotion in order to get there, others can get there with 1 run of UAW..As for when, that too cannot be guessed.

    You could see results in 1 week, or 1-2 months after your UAW backlinking run..it really depends.


    Ya Joe, it’s looking like it may be lower today…I don’t think we’ll know for sure how hard we’re all hit until more time goes by..as I type this it’s 12:40am(day ends at 3am EST) and I’m only sitting at $50.


    Hey Steph, nice :>

    Yup, seems like everyone who’s hit is seeing a halving of traffic :/


    Hey Bryan, it has nothing to do with the length of the domain…out of all my 300+ CB/Adsense sniper domains, plenty of them have 2 or 3 words in them, you’re probably seeing no drop due to other reasons..

  11. June 5th, 2010 at 23:54 | #11

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  12. slash30
    June 6th, 2010 at 02:09 | #12

    The one thing I noticed on sites that dropped in ranking is that they were showing a lot less backlinks then before. Seemly over night. I noticed this around the first or second week of may. I’ve been adding backlinks and those sites have now returned and are even higher now. They moved from the bottom of page 1 to maybe around 4 or 5.

    The strange thing is that the money hasn’t quite returned to where it was, even with the higher rankings. Some days spike higher than before but on average it still less.

  13. Jon
    June 6th, 2010 at 03:59 | #13

    man anyone figure out what the hell is going on. I’m scared. Been doing $40-55 finally. And now i log in and i’m doing $28 or less? This is going to screw my ROI. That’s like $900 a month which means my working on days off really isn’t paying off.

    I have no idea what is going on. I’ll have to check my rankings on Monday to see what happened.

  14. Vince
    June 6th, 2010 at 09:40 | #14

    Well, guys what I don’t understand that not all of us are affected. I checked the first page search results on where my sites used to be and my competition sniper sites are still there, it seems like I was the only one the get bumped…hmmm very strange. The only thing that I can think about is domain age…when I was sniping for keywords, these sniped sites have already been there… Just like my first site aged 09/09, it is still on first page but another newer sniper site with the same EMD as mine is now gone…what you think?

  15. jb
    June 6th, 2010 at 10:35 | #15

    Hey Mike,

    You know that I very rarely post although I visit your blog everyday. But just today, I was shocked to see a site ranking #1 in Google for almost 2 years drop to #10. Another site (one of my highest earners) dropped from #10 to…I don’t know (I stopped looking when I reached page 5). Obviously, income has also dropped significantly. For this reason, I am looking into traffic sources other than SEO now.

    I am also slowly selling my VRE and concentrating on just making a few authority sites. Times are a-changing, peeps huh?

  16. Jona
    June 6th, 2010 at 11:47 | #16

    I’m suffering the same, I track daily my sites and it started 1 June slowly moving across all the data centers. Basically all of my sites dropped from first page to positions around 100 to 500, some sites ranking within top5 for months went to #100+.

    I think if we all share what we find out we should be able to understand it.

    I don’t have many sites, but I’m seeing at least one of them is still on the same position, 3 kws long tail, .net perfect match, it has 4 pages, PR1, and this it raised very very slow from #100 to #5 (it took 6 months to move from #100 to #5 creating some backlinks every month)

    Those seeing their sites ranking on the same positions, do your sites have PR1+? how many pages? age? … I think all together we can find the answer πŸ™‚

  17. June 6th, 2010 at 12:22 | #17

    I have several PR2 sites that dropped, so I’m not sure that it has anything to do with PR.

  18. June 6th, 2010 at 12:49 | #18

    If you all peoples are losing traffic. Then some one should see increase in traffic too. If you peoples have big authority sites. plz let us know about any traffic increase.

  19. June 6th, 2010 at 13:10 | #19

    The only site that has been earning for me-did not shift positions-it is still in #8-9 on the 1st page. The site that was #1 that I have been trying to get above dropped down to #50. I have received barely any visitors at all to this site. age-4-10 pages-6 back links-9

    I believe that one of my authority sites jumped up to #13-it was definitely not there before!

    I am just gonna keep building I waste so much time analyzing and researching, which just makes me doubt what I am doing.

    I did like you last post, comments-just your enthusiasm and determination to keep going forward! Thank you!

  20. June 6th, 2010 at 13:35 | #20

    I have about thirty sites, half monetized with AdSense and the other half affiliate based (ClickBank mainly). I ran through all my keyword positions yesterday, and to be honest, did not see any huge changes. Some sites up a few positions, some down a few positions, normal fluctuations really. I have noticed a decrease in traffic overall, and it looks like I’m not getting as many visitors from random long tail (non-targeted long tails) searches to my sites. Most of my sites have between 10-30 pages of content and are older than six months in age, PR ranges between 0-2. My AdSense revenue is down (about half of normal), but my ClickBank revenue is up. I’m certainly not seeing the huge drop in rankings others are reporting (thank goodness), and still not sure what to make of this yet.

  21. June 6th, 2010 at 14:09 | #21


    For this reason, I am looking into traffic sources other than SEO now.

    Bingo. Gee, you think this is what’s behind the whole thing? Force a massive PPC resurgence?


    I have noticed a decrease in traffic overall, and it looks like I’m not getting as many visitors from random long tail (non-targeted long tails) searches to my sites.

    Exactly the point of the whole thing – if the new algo targets long-tail traffic from a “quality” sort of vantage, then this would make sense. The SE isn’t driving droves of people to your/our sites from this free source of traffic…

    The more I read, the more genius it seems from G’s perspective (more revenue into Adwrds PPC). The good news, though, is that it’s an *algorithmic change* and thus can be out-smarted.

    Just a matter of how. Personally I’m casting more of a net, more backlinking.

    Around May 25th or so I saw a mad drop in backlinks. Cataclysmic. one site had 300 and went to 90 backlinks in YSE, another had 110 down to 30…but ranking for these sites didn’t change, and I think it was just YSE being YSE. All those backlinks came back…

    Don’t know what to make of all the hubbub other than making sure you market your sites, backlink up, cast a wider net. If longtails aren’t driving the “random” searches anymore, then that means the bigger the site, the more opportunity for traffic.

    It also means, for me at least, that I’m not strictly relying on AdSens3 for income — but I get a few hundred a month from aff sales on one site anyway…Diversify your income stream, build your sites, and *don’t stop* because of the hiccup, folks. Plug away, just out-think the terminator at SkyNet/Go0gl3…

  22. June 6th, 2010 at 15:21 | #22

    Great post James, now if I would just quit reading about all of this on everyone’s blog, maybe I can get some work done! πŸ˜‰

  23. Mikeman
    June 6th, 2010 at 15:36 | #23

    @All Is Well

    haha, he might have had a few drinks before..


    Ya, that sucks, nothing to do but adapt.


    Thanks Kelly, ya…just gotta roll with the punches and move forward!

  24. June 6th, 2010 at 19:20 | #24

    Thanks KJ

    ‘xactly…alright. getting back to the Elance gigs. All this hoo-rah means more work for my active income. (poor me)

  25. RichP
    June 7th, 2010 at 20:10 | #25

    Uh, why would a change at google affect the # of indexed backlinks in Yahoo Site Explorer? Come on guys, think it through…

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