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Day 352 – 3 More UAW Submissions(18 Total)

April 22nd, 2010

Got another 3 UAW submissions done..

I’m going to have to spend some time trying to recover 2 of my older sites now as I’ve just realized they’ve been hacked..again.  Now they are un-loadable within Firefox, a red screen pops up saying that it has been reported as an attack page, my traffic for these sites has been cut down by 1/2 since mid April and I’ve probably lost some sales as a result.

Hate having to deal with hackers and the like…

Earnings For Today:

  • CB = $0
  • Adsense = $122.20


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  1. Tony
    April 22nd, 2010 at 14:36 | #1

    that sucks mike, i’ve had mine hacked before too…
    Is it on wordpress? or xsitepro? If it’s wp i know of some plugins that could help, but I think you use xsitepro.

  2. Kelly2
    April 22nd, 2010 at 17:31 | #2

    That so sucks. I had hackers on my sites and its such a pain!

  3. Mikeman
    April 22nd, 2010 at 18:34 | #3


    Ya, I’m having it looked into now by Hostgator…


    It’s actually for 2 of my older WordPress sites Tony…

  4. RichP
    April 22nd, 2010 at 19:47 | #4

    happened to me last year – because I left WP un-updated for weeks before I should have.

    Particularly annoying if you have multiple domains on the same hosting account – I had 70 on the same account…

    In the end I transferred all the important ones over to new hosting, and just let the junk ones burn.

    These two links helped immensely, especially the last one:



  5. Terry
    April 22nd, 2010 at 21:07 | #5

    Mike, I wanted to ask you a quick question on UAW. You mention you get 3 rewrites for every article to use as submissions. How are you setting up the lnks in the resource box? Is it 1 for the main page keyword, 1 for its plural and the other 4 for each keyword on your inner pages?

    I’m trying to wrap my head around why you get 3 rewrites for each article. Forgive me if it’s going over my head right now. I’m getting ready to sign up with your link.

  6. April 22nd, 2010 at 21:50 | #6

    Terry –

    The 3 rewrites are simply how UAW works, status quo. Their software-as-a-service protocol is simply: give 3 unique articles…hence the name. No, not trying to be a smart-@$$ for once, so don’t read a tone into that.

    For greater uniqueness, you should also spin the articles in a text editor such as Notepad ++, but all of this is available on-site. They have a full video series to train you through your first few submissions, then unfold the rest — again, all on site.

    It’s really powerful stuff, and I think they have a money-back guarantee if you don’t like the link-love, increase in PR (as has occurred with my sites, though not sure why), and the increase in CTR or CPA on your site…

    …in which case, you would need a psychiatrist.

    see, now *that time* the smart-@rse came out. anyhow, hope that helps!

    Re: how Mikeman uses the UAW links, I’d suggest you check out the readme at the top of the blog: there’s a section there specifically for UAW runs, i’ve found that really informative.

  7. April 22nd, 2010 at 22:55 | #7

    Hello Mike
    Do you think this next set of uaw will take your adsense up to the high 100s range?

    For me lately have not been able to too much work lately with medical issue. barely making a full day work without getting sick and last on mind is getting online too much

    I have managed to start content creation offline for new site I was telling you about. Surgery date closer. Will be good as new after. Watch Out after that. LOL

    Stiil have domains I have yet to put up snipers for. The great thing I love is seeing those direct deposits even when I can’t do the work. The power of passive income …

  8. April 22nd, 2010 at 23:18 | #8

    The good news is, no matter your host, if you have CPanel, you can back-end those updates pretty easily and from a central location, all without logging in to every page.

  9. Josh
    April 22nd, 2010 at 23:33 | #9



    What are your thoughts?

    I am normally completely immune to fear mongering of any kind and I know you teach the same, but when Ben speaks-I listen.

    This method isn’t even worth it if you need to put that much work into each site. I am already doing a miserable job with adsense so I think I am going to ditch it for a monetization method that isn’t controlled by a company actively trying to fuck us.

  10. April 23rd, 2010 at 00:15 | #10

    OK…back to that UAW free auto-poster trick…

    This is making me re-think that approach, setting the auto-blog posts to manually be reviewed…

    BUT on the other hand, you could always simply put up a post a month on the sites, or what not.

    I did see that Ben mentioned he had 3-4 pagers, definitely not a good thing — with the sheer amount of article marketing that I do on a regular basis, it wouldn’t be a problem to add a page here and there, and the auto-pinging won’t hurt either.

    Just live and learn, and keep trucking…It might also be a good idea to change themes here and there…Thanks for the tip, Josh, and I wouldn’t say G is trying to eff their clients, just a QA check. Again, it totally sucks for Ben, but learn from it: Ben was saying not to do thin sites.

    Not a problem.

    With XSite Pro, for instance, you could drip feed content…heck, you could even repost an ezine here and there, or go to UAW’s uberarticles and grab a free/unique article if you were really short on time and cash.

    I’m plowing ahead, but I’d say learn the lesson, and you’re right: there are other options. Monetize 10 sites with Kontera or Infolinks, see how that goes, or text links from an affiliate…

    My point is, this stuff works, and keep your options open. Pump out quality sites (I still think XFactor is quality so long as the info serves the reader), and then keep trucking. I have sites where the PR is climbing — I haven’t touched them except for a UAW run with solid content.

    I don’t know Ben, not trying to throw stones at him at all, but *his point* was to learn, not to quit…

  11. Josh
    April 23rd, 2010 at 00:26 | #11

    @JamestheJust on Elance

    His sites a great read if you have the time. I don’t know for sure, but I am willing to bet Mike was really influenced by him as well.

    I really do think google is trying to get rid of us. Internet marketers are the absolute enemy of the search engine just because we are trying to game their system.

    I have been rethinking it though. I doubt Ben is that thorough with the content he puts on his site and he might even have pretty questionable backlinking strategies. He has posts on his blogs where he professes ‘content is crap’ and has posts about how to make blog farms.

  12. April 23rd, 2010 at 01:11 | #12

    I don’t know Ben, nor do I really know anyone apart from this and a handful of other blogs: I’m a newbie, truly, who’s making monthly checks thru G and affiliate sales, but a newbie…

    But I do know that John “XFactor” was very careful to say, in a thousand ways, that you have to write for the humans, not the SE’s, and to write solid content.

    I’ve come across a number of XFactor copycat sites — and the prob with most is that they either use garish LSD-inspired colors, or their content makes cereal boxes look like Shakespeare…

    I’ve read better literature on public restrooms…but I’m a writer at heart. I don’t care if you write literature or not, and I’m not a Googl3 spy, don’t work for Matt CutT.s, but I do know that if it’s spammy, it’s in danger.

    Thin sites, thin content that isn’t actually informative or helpful to anyone — these sites *should* and *need* to be taken down, for G to maintain *any* sense of street cred.

    They’re at the top of the Web for a reason, and I’m sure that peeps like MatT CutT.s, their top SEO and the only SEO who’s seen the G code on record, isn’t trying to screw around with MFA sites.

    Good content, backlinks, depth…shouldn’t be a problem. I’m sure the team at G is using Ben and others like him who have influence over this field of SEO and AdSens3 publishing are trying to do what they’ve succeeded: shake you up, wake you up — and shut you down if you’re going to abuse the system

    Now, carefully I want to extricate myself from having said *anything* negative about Ben or what he’s done: I DON’T know him from Adam, have never seen his sites as far as I know, and I think this SUCKS for him.

    But for someone like Ben, I’d say: pick it back up, learn and keep on steamrolling. Don’t let a setback in this business set you back!

    Learn and kick ars3…

  13. April 23rd, 2010 at 01:51 | #13

    Well said James. Except for the kick arse part. Lol

  14. Josh
    April 23rd, 2010 at 02:39 | #14

    I will agree with you on that. Every xfactor copycat site I have ever seen have 100-300 words of content and it is dreadful.

    I haven’t seen and LSD inspired color schemes though. They have all been either green, blue, or red.

  15. Terry
    April 23rd, 2010 at 06:40 | #15

    @JamestheJust on Elance
    James – Thanks for explaining it. No offense taken. LOL Looks like I need to get signed up and started.

  16. Mikeman
    April 23rd, 2010 at 09:25 | #16


    Hey, thanks for sharing that info Rich.


    Hey Terry, looks like James answered your question..

    One thing I’ll add is now that I’m backlinking up inner pages, what I’m doing is finding related keywords to the inner pages to use for link text variation.

    ex: If the inner page kw is brown piano stool, I’ll do a search on that in the Google KW research tool and see what similar keywords I can find to that… ie: brown piano stools, piano stools, piano stool, brown stools, yamaha brown piano stools etc.


    Hey Dee…I don’t like to speculate on where my income is going to wind up, I’ll have to wait and see what happens as this isn’t something that is easily predicted.

    I also don’t like to say my income is at a new level too early in the game for the same reason(today is a good example of why, adsense was only at $101.60 :/

    Having said that, there was a time when I was averaging around $125/day a short time ago, so I would like to see myself at an average of $150/day soon.

    Ya, once the surgery is out of the way, I’m sure you’ll be able to concentrate fully on your business.



    My site has not been influenced by anything but a desire to track my progress on a daily basis, keep myself accountable and fill a gap that I believed was missing in the IM community.

    Regarding your post, if you read this blog from the beginning(including the comments) you’ll see that Ben has dropped by here before..he is a friend of mine and told me about this when it happened to him.

    I didn’t want to go over this as it was a private matter for him, but seeing that he’s mentioned it on his blog, I’ll now discuss it a bit further…

    We were going over what the possible reason could have been, we realized it could not have been the theme alone, as he had variations on just the regular Black/Green/Yellow theme that were de-indexed as well.

    One commonality was that the majority of the sites had 3 pages. This was probably the main reason for the de-indexing.

    I have about 15 sites that have between 6-18 posts on them and probably around another 80 that have 6 posts…the rest of my sites have 5 posts.

    I would say now that once you reach a substantial level of income (ex: $50/day), you’re going to want to go back and ‘beef up’ your sites, I’m considering doing this a bit more as well.

    BTW, about your comment about this not even being worth it…I’m making a living off of this method, as are many other people. You’re letting fear get the best of you.

    If this happens to you, you take it like a man and move on…Ben is still building these sites even after this, he’s just altering them such that each one has more content.

    You can’t expect to do well at adsense or any other method right off the bat BTW, saying that you’re doing “miserable” is not good self talk and doesn’t help things.. you have to FAIL in order to LEARN…When things are not working out early on, you know what? I ENJOY that, I take it as a challenge and I put all the more effort into figuring the damn thing out.

    As long as you take the right mindset into battle you WILL figure it out and you will start making the good money. If you succumb to negativity and fear mongering and allow that to side track you, you will forever be opportunity hopping.

    This business takes work, no matter what blueprint you pick, you gotta realize that and put the work in. You’ve got to realize that when you start a new endeavor at first you will be ‘failing'(learning), things may seem like they’re not going your way but that is only a sign of success as that is what is to be expected in order for you to figure out the system.

    If you have the mental fortitude to reach that point, through all the challenges, it all becomes so easy…don’t be a statistic, like the vast majority who succumb to fear/frustration and give up, be one of the few that has the fortitude to see things through.

  17. April 23rd, 2010 at 10:13 | #17

    I am curious how many pages you have set up for each site?

    You quoted this: “I have about 15 sites that have between 6-18 posts on them and probably around another 80 that have 6 posts…the rest of my sites have 5 posts.”

    Are you talking about inner pages or just blog posts? I have 3 posts on the main page, then I have 5 inner pages.

    Also to anyone who knows, is this site: http://flippa.com/auctions/89878/Premium-domain-name-and-established-PR2-adsense-web-site-126month-revenue
    …against the Go0gle TOS, because the pictures are by the ads?

  18. Mikeman
    April 23rd, 2010 at 10:35 | #18


    Hey Kelly,

    Normally you have just 1 post on the main page and the rest are considered your inner pages. I’m talking about all the posts on the blog though including the main page. So in your case that would be 8 total.

    2nd question = no…

    hxxp://adsense.blogspot.com/2006/12/ad-and-image-placement-policy.html (replace x’s with t’s)

  19. April 23rd, 2010 at 16:58 | #19


    Thank you!

  20. Josh
    April 23rd, 2010 at 17:30 | #20


    I remember you mentioning Ben when you were writing about Hubs, but I wasn’t sure if it was the same guy. I think there are several people who have posted on your blog under the name Ben though.

    As Ben keeps making posts in that topic I see that the differences between the way he was making these blogs and the way I make mine is pretty big. A try pretty hard to act like a mentally diseased blogger who is actually in love with random products and to use post titles for humans. Which, from the sounds of it, wasn’t something he was doing.

    I was having a pretty bad day yesterday and to be honest I was looking for validation to quite. I have come to realize just how hard this is actually going to be. I honestly thought I would be making a decent amount of money by the time I hit 5 months and knowing that I have at the very least another 5-10 months to go is pretty depressing. Anyways, thanks for setting me straight.

    I am not taking part of it back though. Low competition low search volume keywords will absolutely be a waste of time if every website has to have 15-30 posts. I have no problem taking them from 5 up to 20 after I know the keyword isn’t a dud, but if you have to make sure every single one of them have 15 posts, pictures, videos, a unique theme etc… just so your entire network isn’t deindexed is insanity. At the very least I would begin targeting only keywords with over 10k searches. Luckily, it doesn’t look like this is the case. It sounds like Ben just had a lot of 3 post cookie cutter blogs like you said.

    This really just serves as a warning to make sure we are maintaining a good level of quality on our networks.

  21. April 23rd, 2010 at 18:03 | #21

    you asked how many pages, not including privacy/about/contact – 5 on most, 3 on some that are still in progress (content being edited, from my ventures in outsourcing).

    Hopefully I hadn’t said anything, btw, Mike, that was taken as a slam against your friend, Ben. I definitely don’t want to be “that guy” who looks and laughs at someone’s failure, I know what it’s like to drop $40k and lose $60k in a business venture — not pretty.

  22. April 23rd, 2010 at 19:15 | #22

    Hey Dee, I thought you have been quiet b/c you already had your surgery. So sorry to hear that you are sick and still waiting. Hope you are 101% soon!

  23. April 23rd, 2010 at 19:20 | #23

    addendum: I actually have a mix of site pages — I have one w/10, another w/8, one w/6…the rest are mostly 5 pagers with the 3 pagers being edited, so they’ll all have 5 at minimum plus privacy, about etc.

  24. April 23rd, 2010 at 23:08 | #24

    Mike, I read through the whole forum thread and the comments and I don’t think you guys should sweat it.

    One way to deal with it would be to set up a WordPress blog to the site.com/blog directory, link to it from the Navigation menu and have a program like WP robot post youtube videos on it, with an occasional article so that your site gets more pages indexed.

  25. Josh
    April 23rd, 2010 at 23:20 | #25


    I think using software like that puts at a higher risk than having 3 pages does. I can’t say for sure though.

    When I first posted there was only 3 posts in the entire thread. It was easier to be worried before he took more time to explain himself.

  26. April 24th, 2010 at 00:25 | #26

    or you could post related youtube videos manually… :))))

  27. Josh
    April 24th, 2010 at 00:47 | #27


    hahaha yeah!

    I seriously have no idea what youtube videos I could possibly post for some of my sites.

  28. April 24th, 2010 at 01:58 | #28

    funny ones 🙂 Mike’s video have nothing to do with content, you could do the same. After all – a blog isn’t too “formal” of a place anyway.

  29. April 24th, 2010 at 13:56 | #29

    Thanks Carrie, yeah I have been lurking a little when I have the energy to get online. Not much productivity going on lately. I was actually going to try to get a site up today, but now the pain is starting and Im getting off line to lie down. Only two more weeks til surgery. After I recover will be focusing on building a site model(multitopic) that the gurus say that one can never be truely successful with…. I plan to prove them wrong. Now that I know that I can pop a sniper up and start making money right away pretty much I really want to focus on an authority site and beef up the snipers that I already have.

    Plan to kill the ones that I have no interest in beefing up with more content even if they are making a little money. Don’t want any shabby real estate jeopardizing my adsense account. Admittedly those sites had good keywords but i had very little interest in the keyword which of course meant marginal content. That’s why its really important to me more now to focus on topics that I can be excited about even if I know little about them because then I know I dont mind researching in order to learn more about it and create the content. I have keywords now that I have not put up sites for simply because I just am not feeling the keyword but bought the keyword because of the high ad potential and easy competition. Oh well…

    Yeah, but once I recuperate, I will be able to get going again. Thanks for your concern.

  30. April 24th, 2010 at 19:50 | #30

    Hey Dee, I thought you have been quiet b/c you already had your surgery. So sorry to hear that you are sick and still waiting. Hope you are 101% soon!

  31. Mikeman
    April 25th, 2010 at 14:15 | #31

    Josh :


    I am not taking part of it back though. Low competition low search volume keywords will absolutely be a waste of time if every website has to have 15-30 posts. I have no problem taking them from 5 up to 20 after I know the keyword isn’t a dud, but if you have to make sure every single one of them have 15 posts, pictures, videos, a unique theme etc… just so your entire network isn’t deindexed is insanity. At the very least I would begin targeting only keywords with over 10k searches. Luckily, it doesn’t look like this is the case. It sounds like Ben just had a lot of 3 post cookie cutter blogs like you said.

    This really just serves as a warning to make sure we are maintaining a good level of quality on our networks.

    Don’t be silly..

    I didn’t want to put up 5 pages per site…in the end it’s pretty much just the main page that ranks and brings the money in. Does that mean the other 4 pages were a waste of time? No. They were necessary so as not to have thin adsense sites that get your ass in trouble. I now got a solid full time income outta my efforts, so you couldn’t be more wrong. If you don’t want to spend your time writing up additional posts for your sites to beef them up more down the road, outsource…it won’t be a problem when you’re making $50/day.

    Also, you will be making decent money when you have put in the work to make decent money. You need to pay your dues…

    It’s better to set tangible goals also…rather than ‘make X amount of money by Y date’…make goals like ‘I’m going to build 50 sites in 2 months and have them all up and backlinked in 2 1/2 months’. If you do that, the money will follow.

    @JamestheJust on Elance

    Ya, I’ve lost 15k in another venture before myself…

  32. Josh
    April 25th, 2010 at 17:19 | #32


    All I’m saying is that you could make 3 amazon snipers in the time you could make 1 adsense sniper. Rather than outsourcing 10 more articles for as adsense sniper that isn’t performing, you could outsource 2 new sites.

    I’m not going to pretend to know any more than that, I don’t even know how much money an amazon sniper would actually make(I can’t even be a amazon affiliate thanks to my governor). I’m just thinking 20/80 principle, getting the most out of the smallest amount of work.

    About not making decent money- I just didn’t expect it to take so long to actually learn how to make money. Had someone handed me a copy of Xfactors course in November and I had thrown all my effort into it, I would be doing just fine. I spent too much time working on strategies that never got me anywhere.

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