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Day 339 – Adsense Sniper #204

April 9th, 2010

Got another adsense sniper out..

I’ve noticed that my adsense income has been a little bit lower these days..I chalked it up to the Easter Holidays, but it seems to be continuing…

Not sure why that is, but my newly created sites seem to be making up for the drop…the last 30 sites I’ve made have been contributing an avg of $10/day to the totals every since 3 days ago without any UAW backlinking, before that they were contributing around $5…

Anyway, things should pick up once I start backlinking again.

Earnings For Today:

  • CB = $58.23 – 1 sniper site sale + 1 sale for an authority site
  • Adsense = $107.60
  • Total = $165.83

-Mike

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  1. Ben
    April 9th, 2010 at 16:30 | #1

    Hi Mike, I’ve been reading your site while and just created my first batch of 30 adsense snipers. I made the mistake of installing wordpress on all the sites first which got them indexed without content… oops. I’m now trying to catch up and create content subpage for them all but I just started making a few bucks from them. Wohoo!

    Anyway, I have a newbie question for you. What is the best way to setup and keep track of individual site earnings via adsense. Right now I have them all lumped together. Do I create a new unit for each site? Do I use a separate channel for each site? If so is there an easy way to do this in bulk?

    Thanks!

  2. April 9th, 2010 at 20:45 | #2

    Yeah, seems to be pretty ubiquitous…BUT just guessing/hoping/thinking that it’s going to pick up in due time. More sites = more income

  3. Jordan
    April 9th, 2010 at 23:24 | #3

    I had a few sites deindexed today. That might be the problem

  4. Josh
    April 10th, 2010 at 01:55 | #4

    @Mikeman
    @All

    I’m out of money for domain names and all of my sites are sufficiently backlinked, they just need time to start climbing.

    Does anyone have any suggestions on what I should spend some time on to grow my income in the next week or two?

    I was considering infobarrels or hub pages, but I have used them both before and their CTRs are…atrocious.

  5. Kasey Langton
    April 10th, 2010 at 02:06 | #5

    @Josh
    forum posting or link b4iting might be a reasonable route

  6. April 10th, 2010 at 02:09 | #6

    @Josh
    That’s a good question – w/me, active money –> Elance, or other freelance sites, but that’s just me. it’s in the name.

    🙂

    You could always do more KW research for inner pages – you have the sites up, so you can write content for some more pages. The drawback is that you don’t really want to do that until you know what sites work…worst case scenario, though, is that this will give you fodder either for inner pages, or for article marketing on EZA or UAW, etc.

    At least your time would be productive that way. But quick money is either going to be affiliate sales and the whole pre-sale process, or some other active money-maker like freelancing…imho

  7. April 10th, 2010 at 02:10 | #7

    @Josh
    also want to add, while ur doing kw research, if that’s what you do, then you can focus on ur *next* sites and niches. get that out of the way and get ready to build…

    or sell my I <3 Mikeman tees, mugs and bottle-opening keychains…

  8. Kasey Langton
    April 10th, 2010 at 02:13 | #8

    @JamestheJust on Elance
    yeah it gives the kids something to do and out of trouble…lol

  9. Kasey Langton
    April 10th, 2010 at 02:22 | #9

    that last comment was in response to J the J’s new sweatshop making I <3 Mikeman products, so wrong in so many ways, lol

  10. Josh
    April 10th, 2010 at 03:07 | #10

    I am totally set on backlinks. I think if I backlink anymore than I already am I will get sandboxed. I took all of the articles I wrote for my failed sites and experiments, before I started buying domains, and put them in a folder. I have over 100 articles ready to be posted to ezine and they all already have a UAW run. Right now I am just waiting for them to start ranking…

    I will definitely add some new content to the sites but I don’t want to go overboard on it.

    I guess there really isn’t a good answer to this. If these sites start to actually make me money I will find a way to get more to keep working. Whether it is trying to get a loan from my parents or selling my guitar equipment….

    I find this funny though, a month ago I was having trouble staying motivated to work at all. Now I am freaking out about what to work on.

  11. Andy
    April 10th, 2010 at 04:37 | #11

    @Mike:
    Thanks for answering my previous question about CB snipers. Today your CB income is much better than yesterday..so yeah, we need to look at it on a monthly basis.

    Another quick question for you:

    You mentioned in a post earlier, that making CB snipers is more difficult compared to Adsense snipers?
    Why do you think so? (is the keyword research technique different?)or do you find writing content for CB snipers more difficult? (I understand that Adsense sites just have product information in terms of content, do you CB snipers have same type of content? or do you tell your writers to pre-sell, etc. like we do for landing pages).

    Thanks a lot once again for answering. You are absolutely doing a great job here.

  12. April 10th, 2010 at 11:29 | #12

    @Andy
    I think he was referring to the idea that having a person click = cash is easier than having to close a sale on CB snipers.

    CPA = more money per transaction, but there’s more of a selling process, a few more barriers to getting the money…

    CPC = much easier to generate $, more steady income, etc.

    @ Kasey:

    it’s only a sweatshop if I forget to turn on the AC, btw. what’s ur shirt size again?

  13. Mikeman
    April 10th, 2010 at 12:52 | #13

    @Ben

    Nice..

    To track your sites, you can just setup named channels for each site, or you can just install the adsense code on each site then enter in URL channels.

    It depends on whether you want to see: “piano chairs for sale” or “http://pianochairsforsale.org” in your daily reporting.

    Either method you go with,you have a limit of 200 channels/url channels per adsense account to track with.

    If you’re looking to do things in bulk, your best bet would be to just use the same adsense code in each site and setup separate URL channels.

    JamestheJust on Elance :

    Yeah, seems to be pretty ubiquitous…BUT just guessing/hoping/thinking that it’s going to pick up in due time. More sites = more income

    Ya, it’s still low :/ I’ve started backlinking though, so should pick up..

    @Jordan

    Nah, it’s not de-indexing, my sites are just earning less.

    @Josh

    I wouldn’t switch business models, that will mess up your focus. Stick to doing one thing only.

    Spend your time doing more keyword research…or find a way to get more money faster :p

    BTW..

    “I guess there really isn’t a good answer to this. If these sites start to actually make me money I will find a way to get more to keep working. ”

    WRONG mindset, you will fail at this game with it.

    If you take the mindset of first I want to see money, THEN I will put my all in, you will fail EVERY time….You gotta go all out at this and hammer away, even when it looks like you’re getting nothing back from it and eventually you will crack it.

    @Andy

    Hey Andy,

    regarding CB Snipers:

    -It’s not as easy to find good keywords for Clickbank snipers.
    -You have to spend time writing good pre-sell copy, rather than just a regular article like with an adsense sniper.

    Also, like James said, it’s easier to get a click and it’s more stable income.

    And ya, CB snipers have a different layout than adsense snipers, the layout is explained well within the Google Sniper ebook.

  14. Kasey Langton
    April 10th, 2010 at 12:55 | #14

    @JamestheJust on Elance
    i need 15 XL’s, 20 Large’s, 8 Mediums, 4 Smalls, and one extra small for the little one.

  15. April 10th, 2010 at 13:38 | #15

    @Kasey Langton
    wow, Langton – you have a bigger family than I do!

    Alright, I can give you a deal…a box of 20 each size, all for $45. PayPal me, and once I receive payment, I will actually make the shirts and you’ll have them in a matter of…about a year?

    @ Josh –

    See, this is a lesson for ya: quick money. I am selling actual fictional products that you can neither download nor wear, using Mike’s success.

    A parasite is born every minute.

    ((laughing on way to check his PayPal…that Langton, get ‘im every time…))

    ****

    On the real side of things, the “Go all out” mentality is 100% gung-ho success talking. That’s the real magic of this blog – no holds barred, go after it, it works.

  16. Josh
    April 11th, 2010 at 01:31 | #16

    @Mikeman

    To be totally honest with you, I don’t see anything wrong with making sure that I know what I am doing before I try to convince someone to loan me money. I’m also not that happy that you just implied I’m not “putting my all in”. Actually, I just spent my entire savings account without hesitation and haven’t seen anyone who isn’t in my immediate family in 3 weeks…

    I’m not going to start doing keyword research for new sites because in my experience, and yours too apparently, people buy snatch them up the day you find the keyword.

    I have decided to work on infobarrels for a few days. I wouldn’t really consider it a different business model. Its basically just a 1 page sniper that targets a keyword with no competition(as opposed to low competition). I think I can easily write 10-20 a day. I am wondering if my CTR will be higher when I treat them like snipers, unlike my old infobarrels and hubpages which aren’t particularly targeting any keyword and are all in information niches.

    I’m also going to continue adding pages to my newest sites but I want to wait and see where they land with 3 pages.

    Also, just to be clear, I don’t have any hard feelings towards you.

  17. April 11th, 2010 at 01:55 | #17

    @Josh
    Not to speak for Mike on this point, but I don’t think he knew you’d ask someone for money (personally I wouldn’t ask family for a family loan – that’s just not a good business model, and makes Thanksgiving dinner taste funny until you pay it back, but that’s assuming you’d even ask family), nor do I think it was clear you dumped your savings into this venture.

    If you go back through the blog – can’t remember where, now – you’ll see that Mike doesn’t advocate a “wait and see if this works before going on” sort of approach, or figure your break-even before moving forward, etc. He usually advocates building like mad, assuming you’ve done the keyword research correctly, and just put up sites and then repeat. Don’t look back, because it works (rather: don’t get *stuck* looking back and analyzing, just put your shoulder to the plow and move forward).

    The reason being, too many ppl get stuck in over-analyzing, perfecting, etc., and the truth is that this plainly works.

    I’m interested to see if your infobarrels does you good – only because AdSense sites like HubPages, etc. don’t give you 100% of the cut. You do the work, they get the revenue…and the other issue is their ads aren’t optimized the same way. I’ve been to a few of these places and it’s not pretty (their ad placement, imho). So you have 0 control over their meta-tags, ad-placement and other elements that the XFactor sites are good for…

    But again, Josh – it’s your $$ and time, and you just do what you have seen work for you. If you’ve seen this method work, then work it until you get more to re-invest. If you SEO your pages, with low-compete longtail kw’s, sure you’ll see more clickthru – so long as you backlink etc the page and get it ranked.

    Just my 2cents, sorry to chime in as if I knew what Mike’s going to say. I hope it goes well.

  18. Josh
    April 11th, 2010 at 02:21 | #18

    @JamestheJust on Elance

    Fair enough. I definitely wasn’t clear on a lot of points to begin with, and what I said could very easily be taken out of context.

    I agree with you and Mike though. Your really not going to get anywhere without just jumping in and taking action.

    I think my parents would be fine with giving me a loan, maybe even just give me the money(thought thats not what I want) without any questions asked. I definitely wouldn’t try with anyone else in my family though….

    I will be sure and keep you up to date on the infobarrels.

  19. Josh
    April 11th, 2010 at 02:29 | #19

    Also, I was thinking that the automatic boost in ranking you get with a infobarrel, over your own domains, might make up for the low CTR and 75% cut of adsense. I’m really just musing though. I’m not that happy about the idea of it being hosted on someone else’s site and them getting a cut, but then again, I’m not too happy about adsense being able to ban me or google being able to deindex my sites. Its all just a trade off. There will always be risks.

    I remember on Ben’s blog he said he thought it would take 1000 infobarrels or hubpages to get $100 a day, which is quite a lot-but I guess its comparable to what Mike’s stats are showing. ~200 snipers(assuming they all have 5 pages) comes to just over $100(well, today). There are so many other variables though.

  20. Kasey Langton
    April 11th, 2010 at 02:44 | #20

    @Josh
    3 weeks turns into 3 months then 6 months then 9 months…im personally going on 11 months now, im yet again starting over pretty much, BS. but i think i got it this time.

  21. Josh
    April 11th, 2010 at 02:53 | #21

    @Kasey Langton

    I am more accurately on about 4 and a half months. This whole thing definitely isn’t for the faint of heart, that’s for sure.

    Why are you starting over again?

  22. Mikeman
    April 11th, 2010 at 07:12 | #22

    @Josh

    I’m just trying to help you out Josh, I just take a ‘tough love’ kinda approach to things.

    And ya, I too wouldn’t go about this business through getting loans…

    What you do is up to you, the advise is there for you either way.

  23. Josh
    April 12th, 2010 at 05:02 | #23

    @Mikeman

    I think I know where our misunderstanding is.

    In your experience, is this method scalable?

    Since I started working, I have been led to believe that the idea is to create sites that make fifty cents(or more) a day, then make hundreds of them. So, I have been creating sites in small groups, more so out of lack of money than anything else, trying to crack this code of creating a site that make a 50 cents. The idea being, that once I had figured out the right model, I would scale it up to hundreds of sites. I never planned far enough ahead to figure out where I would get the money to pay for 100-200 domains, because if I had really worried about it then I probably wouldn’t have even started.

    So, are these actually ‘snipers’, where every shot is a kill, or is this method just about carpet bombing and hoping we hit something once in a while?

    I know that some sites will inevitably do better than others no matter what you do, the pareto principle, but I still thinks its a legitimate question.

  24. Mikeman
    April 12th, 2010 at 07:25 | #24

    @Josh

    When you get into this game, it doesn’t matter what you’re doing, building authority sites, clickbank snipers or adsense snipers… you’re going to have some failures to start with…It’s going to take time for you to figure out what works.

    Also, not all of your sites are going to work out, even if you know what you’re doing.

    To expect that every site will be a kill is unrealistic..when you get good at this, you can expect upwards of 75% or at least 50% of your sites working out though.

    It seems your first order of business should be to develop a stream of income for yourself that you can then divert some of towards your online endeavor.

    BTW, there is no finding the right model with this, this model works. You need to gain experience in it so that you know how to pick the keywords and build the sites and see the results.

    Also, your focus should not be on creating sites that make 50 cents or $1 a day, your focus should be on something you have control over, like building 1 site a day…some sites will make $1/day, some $.25 every other day, and some $8/day.

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