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Day 288 – Scrapebox Runs Part II – Indepth Analysis

February 17th, 2010

Well, after doing those Scrapebox runs yesterday, here’s what I found…

1.  After using the fast indexing add-on ( hxxp://www(dot)blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/171338-get-big-scrapebox-fast-indexer-list.html) with the PR1 and up listing, I didn’t notice any of my sites being indexed the following day, no additional backlinks were found for the 5 sites that were already indexed either…I guess that listing was not that great.

2.  I saw some increases in backlinks for the sites I did a WP Blog commenting run on and I expect it to continue to go up over the week (I list what the backlinks went to after the “>”) :

Site#1 backlinks = 35/pg1 #5) > 34 (went down by 1)

Site#2 backlinks = 35/pg1 #7) > 72 (went up)

Site#3 (backlinks = 31/pg1 #6)  > 33 (went up)

Site#4 (backlinks = 6/pg1 #8) – (330/67) > 6 (stayed the same)

Site#5 (backlinks = 22/not ranking) > 22 (Stayed the same)

Site#6 (backlinks = 20/pg1 #5) –  (171/152) > 22 (went up)

Site #7 (backlinks = 18/pg 4 #2) – (240/36) > 45 (went up)

Site #8 (backlinks = 20/pg 1 #3) – (338/46) > 19 (went down by 1)

Site #9 (backlinks = 18/pg 2 #3) –  (blog engine submission)  OK, this was the Blog Engine submission, different from all the others which were WordPress submissions.. This one went up to page 1 from page 2 #3 for a while, then went back to it’s old position… The backlinks stayed the same though at 18.

Site #10 (backlinks = 23/pg 2 #1) – (304/22) > 28 (went up)

Now apart from the blog engine submission, all the other sites that had comments submitted to WordPress blogs stayed in the same position in the search engine rankings….I did some more reading into this and apparently the majority of WordPress Blogs are ‘no follow’.. This would explain why I have seen massive explosions in backlinks yet no movement in the search engines for my sites.

Another thing of note was that a lot of the people over at BHW do submissions to blogengine blogs as apparently a lot of them auto-approve comments and a lot of them are ‘do follow’..

Since learning of this and after noticing that my 1 blog engine submission resulted in my site jumping to page 1(if only temporarily), I decided that today I would focus 100% on blog engine submissions…

I did 12 Blog Engine Submissions, here’s the breakdown (backlinks / SEO position / successful postings / failed postings):

Site #11: (backlinks = 28/pg 1 #5) –  (41 successful /130 failed)

Site #12:  = 30/pg1 #5) – (90/185)

Site #13:  (backlinks = 2/pg 1 #6) – (105/277)

Site #14:  (backlinks = 37/pg 1 #6) – (123/225)

Site #15:  (backlinks = 59/pg 1 #4) – (210/363)

Site #16: (backlinks = 14/pg 1 #5) – (331/403)

Site #17: (backlinks = 8/pg 1 #10) – (194/300)

Site #18: (backlinks = 21/not ranking) – (227/363)

Site #19: (backlinks = 29/not ranking) – (222/495)

Site #20: (backlinks = 43/not ranking) – (216/484)

Site #21: (backlinks = 22/pg 1 #7) – (135/303)

Site #22: (backlinks = 25/pg 1 #4) – (102/268)

Lets see if there is more movement in the Search Engines with Blog Engine blog comments than with WP blog comments..

Earnings For Today:

  • CB = $31.85
  • Hops = 137
  • Adsense = $110.81
  • Total = $142.66

-Mike

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  1. February 17th, 2010 at 10:38 | #1

    Hi Mike,

    I’ve been reading about your use of scrapebox, but i think I’m a little slow on the uptake.

    Why do you have to use proxies, what’s the advantage?

    Cheers,

    Paul.

  2. slash30
    February 17th, 2010 at 12:52 | #2

    Hey Mike,

    Could you give a few suggestions on how to word your comments so that they get approved consistently?

    Thanks.

  3. February 17th, 2010 at 14:44 | #3

    Hi
    I have trouble with SB when scraping more than two times. Do I need to scrape with proxies? I’ve just been scraping without proxies and figured I would use the proxies only when posting.. Maybe not
    Big G seems to cut me back when I start.
    Am I already on the S… list or in the sandbox?
    Thanks
    Bill

  4. Nick
    February 17th, 2010 at 19:00 | #4

    Hi Mike. Wondered if you could help with this question…

    A lot of product related searches come up with sites like Amazon and Nextag in the top 10 results on Google. If the PR is either a 1 or 2, and there are very few backlinks to those specific pages, how easy do you find it to rank above sites like those? This is if you’ve managed to get the com/org/net for the *exact* keyword phrase.

    I believe Google places a lot of value in the domain age, and sites like Amazon are obviously as old as the hills, so I just wondered what your experience was.

    Keep up the good work!

  5. February 17th, 2010 at 21:16 | #5

    Hi
    I got the proxies from Alex and he gave me the ‘port’, protocol’ and username and password and said I need to use them all in SB. How’s that? I don’t see where you paste them in. Maybe I just don’t follow too well.
    Can you help?

    Thanks Mike
    Regards

    Bill

  6. February 17th, 2010 at 21:50 | #6

    MikeMan:

    My hats off to your parents for raising you an analyst. Oh, yeah, baby. Thanks for the 411.

  7. Al
    February 18th, 2010 at 00:34 | #7

    Hey Mike,

    I’m trying to get a few partners to develop an automated solution for niche adsense sites. It will auto generate the sites, have two backends for both the writer and admins and auto submit it to UAW.

    Could we get in touch?

    Thanks.

  8. Kasey Langton
    February 18th, 2010 at 01:11 | #8

    Mikeman,
    How many sub-domains are you adding to one IP address at one time? Im finding out that adding more than 8 at one time is triggering the go0gle sandbox…

  9. February 18th, 2010 at 01:36 | #9

    MikeMan –

    I’m a believer, man, I’m a believer:

    Exact keyword domain (all I ever get anyway)
    Tight Niches
    Good KW research
    Your promotional method

    position #17 on a site in less than a week! oh baby.

    You know a thing or two, it seems. Seriously, that is the least promotion I have ever done in my life on a site – and I’ve been at this since…October last year, sort of.

    Thanks, thanks, thanks for the bomb advice, I was a bit scared to completely re-invent my approach, but you made me believer. Bomb!

  10. February 18th, 2010 at 02:51 | #10

    …”but you made me A believer.”

    Crud.

  11. Mikeman
    February 18th, 2010 at 03:15 | #11

    @Paul

    Hey Paul…if you use scraped proxies, you’ll only get a 10% or so success rate when submitting comments..with private proxies, you can get 80%’ish with WP Blogs, a bit lower with blogengine blogs as you can see above.

    @slash30

    I would, except if I did, everyone would copy them word for word and it’d help no one.

    Check out this for some ideas though:

    hxxp://www(dot)blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/member-downloads/165592-get-guide-using-scrapebox.html

    You can get more ideas in the official Scrapebox thread on BHW as well..

    @Bill

    Did you buy proxies?

    The only reason to save proxies for posting is if you bought proxies, shared or private that have limited bandwidth…in that case, you should use free proxies for scraping and then paid proxies for posting..

    Don’t do anything without proxies, bad..

    And when you get the proxies, you need to enter them in like this:

    62.382.13.21:5382:bill:password
    (ip:port:username:password)

    @Nick

    Hey Nick, check out my readme to see how I do kw research…If the PR is 1 or 2, that means nothing to me, I search for 2-3 PR 0’s or PR N/A’s…doesn’t matter how few backlinks there are for the PR 1’s and 2’s… I only like going for keywords that are sure-fire easy targets.

    It’s hard to give you an answer for how easy/hard it is to rank above certain sites as it really is on a case by case basis, I need to know the whole of the page 1 competition, the PR of each site and the backlinks to each in order to say anything meaningful about where I’m likely to rank if I go after the kw.

    domain age doesn’t factor into it for me either…

    James the Just :

    MikeMan:

    My hats off to your parents for raising you an analyst. Oh, yeah, baby. Thanks for the 411.

    hah, np

    @Al

    Sure Al, I’ll send you an e-mail..

    @Kasey Langton

    Hey..Subdomains? Not sure what you mean or if you meant add-on domains. If you meant add-on domains, I use a reseller account and don’t have to deal with those..

    I don’t have any issues with sandboxing. I have the odd site that doesn’t wind up ranking on page 1-3 of Google, but other than that no problems..I just plow on with my plan of finding good kw’s, pumping out sites then backlinking them up and income keeps increasing. I don’t stop to look back at whats in the ‘sandbox’ and what isn’t.

    Sounds like you’re over-analyzing things.

    @James the Just

    Nice man :> Last time I mentioned to pump out 10 more sites, that should be 9 now, keep building them. I don’t stop to look back at where sites are ranking and what not until I’ve thrown up a good # of sites…

  12. Kasey Langton
    February 18th, 2010 at 03:35 | #12

    Mikeman,
    yes I meant add-on domains…is a reseller account considered only one IP address? I have an seo hosting account which Im assuming its like a reseller account. I have 13 different IP’s that I use to spread things out so I dont wind up with the same niche on the same IP because the big G will only give credit towards one “topic” niche per IP. Sounds over analytical I know but its true, did ALOT of research and testing in this area.

    I strongly believe in launching sites the correct way and then not having to spend ALL my time promoting. Launch them correctly and I only spend 20 minutes at most per each site and they still end up on page 1 or 2 right away. No backlinking, no submissions, no articles, no directories. none of that. So yes, I have to be pretty analytical in this area since my promotion is pretty weak but still gets ranking results.

    I don’t know how your not getting sandboxed at least every once and awhile, thats why I asked about the add-on domains and how many per IP address, not 100% on what a reseller account is unless its the same thing as an seo hosting account.

  13. Kasey Langton
    February 18th, 2010 at 03:50 | #13

    Mikeman,
    oh and this is also why i am going to switch to amzon or maybe adsense. By following your blog I know that adsense will be pretty consistent and I am pretty sure that amzon will be also. This clikbank stuff is up and down…lol. even though the hops are averaging the same everyday it seems like the mood has to be right in order to make sales. gets kinda frustrating, but nonetheless I still have about 30 more CB snipers to build since I already bought the domains and then ill be at a total of 94 sites then well see how they turn out once they are all indexed.

  14. Mikeman
    February 18th, 2010 at 13:59 | #14

    @Kasey Langton

    Hey Kasey,

    To be honest, I don’t know anything about reseller accounts & IP’s….I’ve never had to look into that as I’ve never had any issues that required me to…

    If any site gets “sandboxed” it’s because of the keyword I’ve gone after…I’ve noticed certain keywords in certain niches (ex: loans/credit cards) are harder to rank for right off the bat..

    When going into product niches though, I don’t notice this happening..

    Adsense is pretty stable if you make the sites on product keywords…if you make your sites on high CPC keywords, it will not be as stable, however by going after product kw’s with CPC of $1-$3 or 4 things are quite reliable.

    And ya, CB is up and down, you have to look at your income on a weekly or even monthly basis, so as not to drive yourself crazy :/ You’ll have some solid income though with 94 snipers..

  15. Kasey Langton
    February 18th, 2010 at 16:07 | #15

    @ Mikeman
    yeah i noticed that about keywords too, that might be some of my problem, the big G seems to hold back or snadboxed sites that have kewyords that are synonyms to spammy like keywords.

    Im still undecided about these CB snipers. I did an appraisal on all of them and even though its not 100% accurate its a decent basis to go by. On all 94 they come out to a total worth of $22,470 because some of my keywords have high cpc and supposedly they calculate this in. Even though not all of my sites have content on them yet. Would be nice to cash out and use that $ to start on adsense or amzon sniping. guess ill have to wait and see what happens.

  16. February 18th, 2010 at 21:58 | #16

    Thanks you two.

    Btw, MikeMan, by “product keywords,” do you mean “product names” or “product types?”

    E.G.: “electric teakettles,” or “Braun Aqua-Blah-Bitty-Blue 2.0?”

    I picked this tip up a little late. Have a couple of sites that aren’t products…haven’t built them yet.

    In any event, would you ever build a site on a service that people can buy? For example, life insurance? Just curious.

  17. Kasey Langton
    February 18th, 2010 at 23:30 | #17

    @ James the Just
    product names are golden, but at some point may run across infringement so its better to have quantity because if you have to give one up here and there then you wont be out too much.

  18. February 19th, 2010 at 00:39 | #18

    @Kasey Langton
    Thankie, thankie

  19. Kasey Langton
    February 19th, 2010 at 01:09 | #19

    @ James the Just
    although i say this because i think it will work on queue with amzon but with adsense i have no idea if product names or product suggestions would be better…Mikeman?

  20. February 19th, 2010 at 17:34 | #20

    Hey bro just came upon this site while searching for some Scrapebox stuff…gotta say I’m inspired and impressed. I never messed with adsense too much, but decided to sign into my account and check it out. I had $12 bucks in there from one site with very little traffic and only a few months of advertising. Guess it’s time to re-think this adsense stuff, and how I can generate some traffic with SB for my other sites. I need to ramp up my efforts.

  21. February 19th, 2010 at 17:35 | #21

    OH ya and your name is pretty cool – almost like mine haha!

  22. Mikeman
    February 20th, 2010 at 15:13 | #22

    @Kasey Langton

    Only way to find out is to build them, backlink them and see what happens!

    @James the Just

    By product keywords I mean “electric tea kettles”…I don’t really go after brand name domains anymore as I ran into a situation where I was asked to take one of my sites down within a specified period of time and that’s not a headache I want to deal with on a continual basis.

    If you built an adsense site on an “informational” keyword rather than a product keyword, you can still make money for sure, that’s a different plan all together…I’m sticking to product kw’s though.

    @Kasey Langton

    When I first started pumping out sites, I had a good chunk of them as brand name keywords, maybe 40-50%…what I found though was that most of the top earners were just product keywords such as “piano chairs”. I don’t think this is indicative of product keywords doing better than brand name keywords though, I believe it was just the luck of the draw.

    I do have some successful brand name keywords though, however I’d suggest not going after them so as to avoid any legal issues which WILL arise if you’re looking to pop out 100’s of these sites.

    @Mike Meisner

    Haha, ya, nice name, and thanks :> Ya, adsense is great..especially if you make product keyword snipers, nice stable income.

  23. February 20th, 2010 at 19:37 | #23

    Onto way more important questions:

    Will I ever meet this guy in the video and make him angry? Please, please, no.

    I have legs to run. And words to beg for my life. That’s how I roll. This guy makes Bruce Lee look like a gadfly. I have no idea what a gadfly is. Scary dude.

    OK, MikeMan, that’s what I thought you meant. Thanks.

  24. August 19th, 2011 at 11:22 | #24

    I love the fact that your adsense is earning more than your clickbank! Who would ever of thought this possible!!! 🙂 Great Site, need to read more of it! Thanks 🙂

    PS. Scrapebox is next on my list. Wish me luck, im gona need it cos I dont understand proxies.

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