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Day 251 – Misc Stuff

January 11th, 2010

Didn’t get any sniper sites up today as 1 of my outsourcers got a bit behind so I spent the day doing other stuff:

-For one, one thing I saw on the XFactor forums was that apparently through 1 guy’s experimentation, he found that he was getting better conversions when he only had 1 link in the header to the main page, rather than having 5 links to the main page and inner pages.ย  I decided to test that idea out a bit and chose 5 of my sites to remove the inner pages from the top menu and see if that results in any improvement in CTR…

-I also posted up 10 articles that were written as test articles by 2 potential outsourcers, those each went up to 10 different sites.

-I also spent some time trying to figure out what I should do about the proxy server situation for Scrapebox, I looked into a few options, but am unsure at this point whether I should go for the Shared 68 IP option for $17 at Proxy Bonanza or go for some BHW members who are giving 10 exclusive proxies for around $30-35..I want to be able to get at least a 50% success rate when submitting, when I try with free proxies it’s only at 10%.

-I did some keyword research on 5 of my recently purchased domains to find 4 inner keywords for each…I’ve now got all my purchased domains planned out.ย  If I keep doing 2 sniper sites a day though I’ll soon be out of keywords as I believe I only have keywords up to around Sniper Site #155-160.

One of the people who recently finished the 5 article trials won’t be able to start work until later this week, so given the uncertainty there, I’m also continuing to look for more outsourcers…

My income in Adsense has been an average of $80/day ever since Jan 2nd, will be interested to see now that the weekend is over and I had tweaked a few of my sitesย  if it goes up at all…

Earings For Today:

  • CB = $19.63
  • Hops = 159
  • Adsense = $77.19
  • Total = $96.82


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  1. jb
    January 11th, 2010 at 06:23 | #1

    Hey Mike, would be interested to know your adsense settings for:

    – Interest-based ads
    – Third Party Ads

  2. Heimir
    January 11th, 2010 at 09:50 | #2

    Mike, are you using WordPress? If so what theme?

  3. Chris
    January 11th, 2010 at 09:58 | #3


    Mike mentioned in some older posts that he was using XSite for his pages. Apparently XSite also has some kind of site management features.

  4. Deb
    January 11th, 2010 at 10:30 | #4


    I’m also interested in adsense settings you use. Do you block certain advertisers if you can tell the click payment is low? That is awesome you are averaging 80 plus a day.

  5. Mikeman
    January 11th, 2010 at 15:04 | #5


    To be honest, I didn’t even know those options existed, so whatever the default is is what I’m using :>


    Ya, what Chris said..XSite Pro 2 and I’m using John’s black/green site layout.


    I really don’t micromanage to that extent…I did try this on some sites, but it’s hard to say if it worked or not:


  6. Lisa
    January 11th, 2010 at 15:09 | #6

    Mike, quick question…as I’m going over my backlink strategy I have a question about how many backlinks you should build per day. Do you have a number you stick by?

  7. Mikeman
    January 11th, 2010 at 16:23 | #7

    I don’t have any particular # that I stick by…But when I do a UAW submission for a new site, these days I’m submitting it at 15/day and as for Backlink Solutions, I’m doing that at 3/day, although because there are 3 different backlinks that are spun it comes out to 1/day per site there.

    I basically play it by ear right now…

  8. Evita
    January 11th, 2010 at 16:30 | #8

    OK, so I don’t get it… Thought Google bot was already crawling my entire site? What would be the advantage of adding the robots file?

    Can see the targeting stuff, have tried that but unsure if it worked or not. I think sometimes advertisers bid on keywords that may be a bit off for their product, but it may be less expensive than their main keyword(s) and we end up with less targeted ads….. and they make out paying less for the click…

    I have a page about what a condition feels like and many of the ads are about testing for the condition…

    My CTR really is lousy on that page but I don’t know how to prevent the advertisers who sell the “testing” from appearing on my page. I’m sure they are bidding on the “feeling” keyword since it gets a fair number of searches…

    Oh, and I have a page about aging pets and I keep getting ads for retirement homes in Florida…..LOL!…. Have tried targeting for that page to no avail. Actually it is quite humorous. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Never a boring moment…


  9. rose556
    January 11th, 2010 at 21:53 | #9

    hello ,Mikeman,i am a newbie ,i fail in xfactor method,can you give your advice . please send your email adress ,i will tell you my website ,thank you

  10. nick
    January 12th, 2010 at 03:55 | #10

    Hi Mike

    to side track a bit, did you experience any sites disappearing from the index? I had a couple of sites that literally disappeared into the abyss of google from their top 10 ranking.

  11. Mikeman
    January 12th, 2010 at 06:02 | #11


    I have no idea, I saw the same video you did…

    You know I have the same issue with some of my sites. Sites that get a ton of visits but have really crappy CTR’s because the ads aren’t targetted, even after I did the above trick…Sometimes there just aren’t enough advertisers for the product and you get unrelated stuff and there’s not much you can do about that..


    Hey Rose, I’ll send you an e-mail, but first you’ll want to check this out:




    Ya, that happens all the time Nick, it’s called the “Google Dance”, it happens when Google is trying to assess where it should rank your site, it disappears then reappears, sometimes 1 week later, sometimes more..

  12. Heimir
    January 12th, 2010 at 10:18 | #12

    And what kind of CTR are you getting on an average using that layout?

  13. Mikeman
    January 12th, 2010 at 14:39 | #13


    Heimir, I can’t give out that info, it violates the TOS of Adsense…it yields a very nice CTR though.

  14. Chris
    January 12th, 2010 at 15:36 | #14

    Hey Mike,

    Do you include images above the title too?

    I’m starting to think that the images are going to help with the bounce rate because when user’s land on the site and see the images, the site becomes more relevant for them rather than just a boatload of text.

    The reason I’m not using xfactor’s is because i don’t want to appear like all of the other xfactor sites popping up now a days. Im not sure if or when Google will start penalizing sites like that.


  15. Chris
    January 12th, 2010 at 15:37 | #15

    But on another hand, visitor’s eyes are drawn to images but we want their eyes to be drawn to the ad instead so putting images may backfire.

    Unless you place images near the ads… but have to be careful about that

  16. Mikeman
    January 12th, 2010 at 15:49 | #16


    Hey Chris, ya, I put images in above the title and below the menu…While I can’t tell you the CTR I’m getting, after building over 100 of these and seeing the success that I have, the layout doesn’t need to be 2nd guessed, it just works. In fact, if the CTR goes up anymore it could be a bit unsettling because it’s high enough as it is.

  17. January 13th, 2010 at 02:59 | #17

    So, are you still using the Xfactor format or…do you use XSite pro? Is there (any) way in heck I can see an example?

  18. nick
    January 13th, 2010 at 05:04 | #18

    i not really refering to the google dance, as they usually happens in the first month.

    I am referring to xfactor sites that are consistently in top 10 for around 6-8 weeks. and which they will sudenly appear in the last page of google.

    I had sites that behaved like that and now they are in the last page for probably 2 months.

    u experienced before?

  19. Mikeman
    January 13th, 2010 at 05:34 | #19

    @James H

    Hey James..XFactor used XSite Pro…I’m using XSite Pro 2. If you mean an example layout of an XFactor page, John gives an example layout in the course. It’s got a black header, yellow text title, white text page links under that, then a row of images, followed by the title of the page, an adsense block and the text for the page.

    The side menu is an olive green.

    You might be able to find some in Google if you search around long enough, I’ve come across plenty.


    I’m not sure what your backlink activity has been but that would shed more light on what exactly is going on with your situation…

    I’ve had sites dissappear and re-appear many times. They often drop down to position 70-100, Usually though it’s only for a week or two. Not sure what you mean by the last page..are you using tracking software to track it’s rankings for it’s keyword?

    For me when it comes back, sometimes it comes back higher on the first page, other times it may wind up like on the 3rd page and seem stuck there.

    I have 1 site that did this, it’s still stuck on the 3rd page and it was such a nice earner too…If this site of yours was a good earner as well, all you can do is continue to throw links at it and wait it out..but it’s best not to spend time thinking about it and get on with building more sites, fawning over old sites is what stops a lot of people from making money, I’m too busy building new sites to do that myself.

  20. January 13th, 2010 at 08:31 | #20

    Mike –

    Thanks, I wasn’t very clear. I am familiar with the XFactor style, I have 3 sites up that net me in a month a little more than what you seem to be pulling in a day (quantity, baby!), and I’ve got the SuperOptimized WP suite, the whole deal.

    I was simply wondering if you’re using that strictly, or if you’ve used your own template that you’ve created for the AdSense sites?

    One other question, and I apologize for asking silly questions, but what do you mean by “Google Sniper” sites? Is this simply a euphamism for a successful Adsense site, or do you mean something else altogether?

    Thanks! Love the site and info.

  21. January 13th, 2010 at 08:41 | #21

    One last question: how long have you been at this, btw?

  22. nick
    January 13th, 2010 at 12:50 | #22

    hmm great idea, but they are one of my earners, that the problem.

    I do not use any software to track their ranking, instead i check them manually. For me, the definition of “last” page is the page where you show “100” results per page and you go to the last possible page before “show ommited results”

    I was getting worried when consistently my earners disappear.

  23. Mikeman
    January 13th, 2010 at 18:50 | #23

    @James H

    I’ve been just using the 1 template thus far…at some point I might consider adding another template, but really, I’m not one to worry about the template being the same as everyone elses, who cares? What matters is the content, I’m more interested in making sure I’m putting quality content on these sites and building some of the better performers up.

    Google Sniper sites are a completely different thing, if you look in my history, I made about 130 Clickbank snipers according to the Google Sniper system by George Brown, link in the sidebar.

    As far as how long I’ve been at it, I started in June 2008, but it wasn’t until Dec 2008 that I started getting serious and logging my results on a daily basis(I did this on another forum up until May 2009 when I made this site).


    Don’t worry about it…forget this site and start building new sites…If you get into the habit of CONSTANTLY pumping out new sites on a daily basis, yes, daily, you won’t have time to think about sites that aren’t doing what you want them to…and new top sites will start appearing.

    Even if this was a good site, forget about it and make more sites, I’ve had this happen to me several times where top earners dropped off the map, I just kept building sites and new sites replaced them.

  24. January 13th, 2010 at 22:56 | #24

    Thank you, you’re very generous with your 411, much appreciate that. Hi fives, fist-bumps and deuces.


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